tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post6247256001147886844..comments2010-02-02T04:42:06.729-05:00Comments on Outland Bound: Pug Species #19: Runinicus treadmilliaSuzannehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16184120413073873397noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post-9309514717474130012007-11-19T14:03:00.000-05:002007-11-19T14:03:00.000-05:00I do understand completly and I have a solution it...I do understand completly and I have a solution it called level up and solo them. It what I seem to have to do for a few of the quests I have had in the past. I am about to solo several instances just so I can get the Honor from them.Psycho & Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17002231357225877301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post-13541145005679068402007-11-19T10:22:00.000-05:002007-11-19T10:22:00.000-05:00@lalecizeMy husband is leveling up a warrior tank ...<B>@lalecize</B><BR/><BR/>My husband is leveling up a warrior tank to go along with my priest, so ultimately, we can get groups for instances together more quickly, since it always seems like we're waiting for either a tank or a healer in the LFG channel. It also means that we can decide how things should go, and with two folks pressing for a particular way of playing (from marking the pulls to the loot rules), we hope it will be easier to convince folks. <BR/><BR/>I have played with some excellent lowbie pugs, too, so I always have high hopes that I'll be able to find another. I am finding that they're the exception rather than the rule though. As my expectations get lower and lower, I'm disappointed less and less. :)<BR/><BR/><B>@kestrel</B><BR/><BR/>I'd also be hesitant to pug in Outland, knowing how things tend to go in the early game. Right now if people are stupid or steal loot or whatever, it's not such a huge deal because there aren't items dropping that are going to make or break me. It would be much more stressful/annoying/upsetting dealing with the cheaters and stupid people as gear becomes more critical and instances take a lot more time, money, and resources. Part of the reason I joined a guild is to avoid all this frustration later.<BR/><BR/>If you do pug in Outland, I guess you just have to go in knowing that you might be wasting your time and that a warrior might roll need on that phat piece of cloth lewt that you were desperately hoping for.<BR/><BR/><B>@Psycho & Chaos</B><BR/><BR/>Wha...? But, I want sympathy, not a solution! ;) No, really, it's true. In any of these situations, I could just leave and not waste any more time. How much I'll tolerate depends on how badly I want to get those quests off my list at that moment.<BR/><BR/><B>@baila</B><BR/><BR/>I'm nothing if not persistent, I suppose. It's funny that I'm coming off as patient, because I'm yelling at my screen most of the time, but I am yelling less and less as other people's crappy behaviors are no longer new to me. I'm getting used to folks not waiting for the healer, or running ahead when I've asked for people to stick around so I can rebuff them. Now I just say, "Well, I guess they don't want to be healed," and sit there and finish my water. :)Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16184120413073873397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post-58625797277322096752007-11-17T23:17:00.000-05:002007-11-17T23:17:00.000-05:00gawd but you're patient! i woulda been outta there...gawd but you're patient! i woulda been outta there so much sooner. anytime people won't wait for their healer, anytime people don't listen to repeated requests...argh. stupidity and nil communication will wipe everytime.<BR/><BR/>you get elected to sainthood for that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post-41676951332625684612007-11-16T13:10:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:10:00.000-05:00The beauty of it for your own sanityl. When people...The beauty of it for your own sanityl. When people are being that stupid you can just leave and go do what ever you need to do.Psycho & Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17002231357225877301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post-58476938151583037582007-11-14T15:49:00.000-05:002007-11-14T15:49:00.000-05:00You know, Ess...every time I think about doing pug...You know, Ess...every time I think about doing pugs (and I'm talking Outland, where theoretically, people SHOULD know their stuff)...I read a horror story like this from you or someone else...and I get all antsy again. But maybe this weekend...maybe...<BR/><BR/>/e hems & haws...<BR/><BR/>(BTW, thanks for changing the comment process--it's perfect!) :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6414076496189651859.post-66002059007588372332007-11-14T14:55:00.000-05:002007-11-14T14:55:00.000-05:00Haha that sounds nasty.At times i feel grumpy, but...Haha that sounds nasty.<BR/><BR/>At times i feel grumpy, but i make rules clear when i do a pug. I do the marking 99% of the time (on me rogue or pallytank), and that means im leader.<BR/><BR/>If someone does not listen to my rules a few times i kick them. Even if they are the only healer on the server.<BR/><BR/>9/10 times, they will whisper you apoligizing, request a re-invite and behave themselves.<BR/><BR/>What you really need to do ESS, is a find a good tank, add him to your friends list, and run stuff with him. <BR/>A good tank is invaluable, and it sounds like in this case if the pally was supposed to be tanking, he/she should have said so, asked for leader, and explained the rules.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand it was a lowbie pug, you can't expect great things.<BR/>You do need some leadership, and it sounds like you were the only sensible one in their.<BR/><BR/>DAMN rouges! <BR/>Ultimately the majority of the time, running with a dedicated tank and healer, and clear rules results in a much faster death free instance. Lol sounds like your having a bad run on the pug front.<BR/><BR/>I won't lie...i've rolled my tank because i was sick of bad tanking, so this thing really erks meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com